Plants vs Zombies is one of the most iconic games of the late 2000s, but nowadays it seems to have been largely forgotten to be the titan it once was....
T3rr0r626
3 years ago (edited)
I made a documentary on PopCap itself if anyone's interested. I tried to take as much of the criticism as I could so there's no overextending or straying too far from the topic displayed in the title, as a lot of people have been having grievances with the fact that this retrospective video goes over the full story. Check it out if you're interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPZfvkuZ0AY&t=387s
CORRECTIONS:
PopCap were technically the ones who had complete control over whether or not to add microtransactions in PvZ 2. EA just published the second game while giving PopCap a massive incentive to make a lot of profit, causing them to descend to greedy methods. Something I had also forgotten to include was the input of George Fan. He was the one who implemented a lot of character into the first game, and his lack of involvement for the second game could be a possible reason for why the game has a different (not necessarily worse) feel.
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maniekrozmaryn
3 years ago
After knowing and playing this game for 12 years I know that torchwood also can get rid of fog
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kivaHBRO_04
2 years ago (edited)
Everytime I would play PVZ as a kid It would freak me out hearing the zombies. I was too scared to play it sometimes. What scared me the most was when the zombie’s would enter your house. Hearing the “NO” scream haunted me as a kid.
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TheTyphoon365
3 years ago
Garden Warfare was insanely fun. Actually ahead of it's time. Such good co-op too. Damn I miss that
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jacknystrom3125
2 years ago
Dude the first PvZ game got me through all sorts of tough times. During my childhood I was in and out of the hospital and all I can remember is playing PvZ on my dad's phone.
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Vikingsdikrider
3 years ago
“Winter Melon tries to calm his nerves. He hears the zombies approach. Will he make it? Will anyone make it?” Is the best quote
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joemogley
3 years ago (edited)
I think the reason Garden Warfare was well recieved was that, despite the feel changing massively, it was still a "tower defense" game in spirit. It's jsut that now, you control the towers instead of a omnipotent builder. This especially applies once you start strategizing in the game. That could be a reason why Garden Warfare was well recieved, but Heroes is forgotten.
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katuhra-_-5869
2 years ago
Man Garden Warfare 1 and 2 were one of the biggest games of my childhood. The story and interactive world in GW2 was addicting me. I just wanted to adventuee and collect all the secrets. Truly two gems, but i dont wanna talk about battle for neighborville. Some nice ideas but the execution rough
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Supershadow301
3 years ago
People often forget PvZ:Heroes exists, but imo it did a great job with its artstyle.
It mixes nicely the respective artstyles of both PvZ (cartoonish but weird and a bit gritty) and PvZ2 (softer cartoon), and then adds a dash of super hero comics art to make it its own unique style. And it fits pretty well!
The new plants/zombies fit well enough, while the returning ones take cues from either PvZ1, PvZ2, or other sources like PvZ Adventures (the weird facebook game?)
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ThatBlenderAnimator
3 years ago
Upon release I remember PVZ2 being really bad. It’s gameplay was great, however the levels were atrocious. The map was like a maze, and you had to buy keys to unlock the rest of the levels. I was so happy that it was completely reworked to be linear
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iliasfilip2110
2 years ago
They should make a PvZ game where you attack the Zombie HQ and rescue Crazy Dave. That way the roles are reversed while sticking to the original idea
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Mastercheif-3.14
1 month ago
"Make plants vs zombies remastered" well it's 2025 and we are getting plants vs zombies replanted.
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martinalejandrotavareschav6726
3 years ago
when it was announced that plants could level up in pvz 2, I was very excited, but later I realized that it was probably the worst thing that could happen to the game, not only because of more microtransactions, but also because it removes more solids as a game and as an initial concept with which it had to end.
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meowmew-
3 years ago
It feels very disingenuous to me to say that EA had no role in the downfall of PVZ. In addition to George Fan being laid off due to visionary differences, there are also two interviews (can’t link in the comments of course) that suggest EA played a heavy role. One employee said that the CEO of EA at the time brought up the idea of “rentable plants” because of a suggestion from his child, and another employee said that they suggested making two different PVZ games, one closer to the spirit of the original and the other with more monetization. That employees idea was disregarded, and they were taken off the PVZ2 team and later asked to leave the company.
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siwyktos3928
3 years ago
Garden warfare 1 and 2 were really fun imo, one thing i really liked was that skins werent just skins but they also changed mechanics in character
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NicolasDelgado-gp4ef
1 year ago
Loved the video! Really high quality and has a homey sort of feel to it
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cook0ut9
3 years ago
I remember that once Burger King did this really weird little yellow device that let you play plants vs zombie in a very dumbed down version with pea shooters only. It was kinda cool.
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slimeyarchives7808
3 years ago
I remember playing PvZ1 and 2 and absolutely loving them! Then I got PvZ Heroes and it wasn’t too bad, it wasn’t really my type of game though. I hope they add more to the PvZ franchise, I love plants verses zombies and so do a lot of people.
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elius1548
3 years ago
Something important about the first game: You’re constantly unlocking plants which either solve a problem which has just been introduced, or make it easier. You get potato mines to deal with Pole Vaulters, and then afterwards are rewarded with the Snow Pea as an easier method of killing them. You get the Fume Shroom telling you it can go thru screen doors, and immediately are faced with screen doors. After you struggle to kill miners with starfruit, you’re given the more effective Split Pea. I could go on with literally every time you get a plant. Yes, some plants are more useful than others, but every time you get a plant, it’s helpful for the very next level
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OOZTIN
1 month ago (edited)
20:33 this aged like fine wine, there’s a plants vs zombies remastered!
T3rr0r626
3 years ago (edited)
I made a documentary on PopCap itself if anyone's interested. I tried to take as much of the criticism as I could so there's no overextending or straying too far from the topic displayed in the title, as a lot of people have been having grievances with the fact that this retrospective video goes over the full story. Check it out if you're interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPZfvkuZ0AY&t=387s CORRECTIONS: PopCap were technically the ones who had complete control over whether or not to add microtransactions in PvZ 2. EA just published the second game while giving PopCap a massive incentive to make a lot of profit, causing them to descend to greedy methods. Something I had also forgotten to include was the input of George Fan. He was the one who implemented a lot of character into the first game, and his lack of involvement for the second game could be a possible reason for why the game has a different (not necessarily worse) feel.
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